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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by help with air conditioning! - Page 3 - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>help with air conditioning! - Page 3 - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I think the damper he may be referring to may be the hot cold mixer. If the pressure is fine, this might be the issue. Also, there is an on board diagnostic procedure Air Conditioning Diagnosis &#124; EClassBenz.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I think the damper he may be referring to may be the hot cold mixer. If the pressure is fine, this might be the issue. Also, there is an on board diagnostic procedure Air Conditioning Diagnosis | EClassBenz.com [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by Surendra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a &#039;98 E320. Two years ago the high speed  blower was replaced by the dealer for a hefty $1200. Late last year, before the Fall, the AC stopped working blowing only hot air. The EC light can be turned off. I was told by the dealer that the recharge will cost me nearly 297 and the worst case scenario is $4500 for changing the coil. I was encouraged to read your article and decided to take down the sensor readiings and the error coses to see if it is indeed just the recharge that is needed. I think I can recharge it myself if I can confirm the location of the low pressure valve. I had looked under the hood and found that the chrome pipe going from the compressor to the dash just below the brake reservoir has a valve with plastic screwed cover.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have collected the sensor information and the errorcodes per your guidelines. Here they are:&lt;br&gt;#1 30, #2 29, #3 31, #4 31, #5 49, #6 65, #7 01, #8 28.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The error codes are:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;E61 227,  E61 231,  E61 233,  E61 234,  E61 459,  E FF,  E&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will appreciate it if you can put me inthe right directions. Thanks in anticipation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a &#39;98 E320. Two years ago the high speed  blower was replaced by the dealer for a hefty $1200. Late last year, before the Fall, the AC stopped working blowing only hot air. The EC light can be turned off. I was told by the dealer that the recharge will cost me nearly 297 and the worst case scenario is $4500 for changing the coil. I was encouraged to read your article and decided to take down the sensor readiings and the error coses to see if it is indeed just the recharge that is needed. I think I can recharge it myself if I can confirm the location of the low pressure valve. I had looked under the hood and found that the chrome pipe going from the compressor to the dash just below the brake reservoir has a valve with plastic screwed cover.</p>
<p>I have collected the sensor information and the errorcodes per your guidelines. Here they are:<br />#1 30, #2 29, #3 31, #4 31, #5 49, #6 65, #7 01, #8 28.</p>
<p>The error codes are:</p>
<p>E61 227,  E61 231,  E61 233,  E61 234,  E61 459,  E FF,  E</p>
<p>I will appreciate it if you can put me inthe right directions. Thanks in anticipation.</p>
<p>SK</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by Surendra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have &#039;98  E-320 which gave a problem with the high speed fan motor not comiing on. The blower motor was changed by the dealer a couple of years ago for a hefty sum of $1200. Starting late last year the AC would just not cool. All I am getting is the hot air. I am hesitant to take it to the dealer because the price will vary from $297 (recharge) to may be $4500 (coils replacement). I read your artical and decided to take down the readings and see if  could recharge 134a myself. Here are the readings:&lt;br&gt;#1 30,#2 29, #3 31, #4 31, #5 49, #6 65, #7 01, #8 28.&lt;br&gt;The error codes are: E61 227,  E61 231,  E61 233,  E61 234,  E61 459,  E FF,  E.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The EC light can be turned off. If you feel that the rfrigerant needs to be recharged, would you let me know the approximate location of the low pressure valve? I have opened the hood andcan see a chrome pipe going from the compressor to the body below the brake fluid cup. This pipe has a valve with a plastic thread cover.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in anticipation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have &#39;98  E-320 which gave a problem with the high speed fan motor not comiing on. The blower motor was changed by the dealer a couple of years ago for a hefty sum of $1200. Starting late last year the AC would just not cool. All I am getting is the hot air. I am hesitant to take it to the dealer because the price will vary from $297 (recharge) to may be $4500 (coils replacement). I read your artical and decided to take down the readings and see if  could recharge 134a myself. Here are the readings:<br />#1 30,#2 29, #3 31, #4 31, #5 49, #6 65, #7 01, #8 28.<br />The error codes are: E61 227,  E61 231,  E61 233,  E61 234,  E61 459,  E FF,  E.</p>
<p>The EC light can be turned off. If you feel that the rfrigerant needs to be recharged, would you let me know the approximate location of the low pressure valve? I have opened the hood andcan see a chrome pipe going from the compressor to the body below the brake fluid cup. This pipe has a valve with a plastic thread cover.</p>
<p>Thanks in anticipation.</p>
<p>SK</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by blakecameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>blakecameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 04:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks once again for the beer money.  I have good news for you.  It looks like all you need is a recharge.  None of your error codes are significant.  The only one that might make a difference to you is B1231, the engine coolant temperature sensor.  That sensor informs the climate control unit when it&#039;s appropriate to start blowing (hopefully warm) air after staring the car in the winter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the air conditioner, your refrigerant pressures look good.  The vent air is warmer than it should be (40s), but still cool enough (60s) to tell that the A/C is working.  Often when the refrigerant is low, you&#039;ll hear a hissing noise emanating from behind the center vents and notice a temperature difference between the left and right center vents.  A simple recharge should put you back in business.  In the interim, you can try using the recirculate button to reduce the temperature of the air being drawn through the AC (assuming the interior is cooler than the outside).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Thanks once again for the beer money.  I have good news for you.  It looks like all you need is a recharge.  None of your error codes are significant.  The only one that might make a difference to you is B1231, the engine coolant temperature sensor.  That sensor informs the climate control unit when it&#39;s appropriate to start blowing (hopefully warm) air after staring the car in the winter.</p>
<p>As for the air conditioner, your refrigerant pressures look good.  The vent air is warmer than it should be (40s), but still cool enough (60s) to tell that the A/C is working.  Often when the refrigerant is low, you&#39;ll hear a hissing noise emanating from behind the center vents and notice a temperature difference between the left and right center vents.  A simple recharge should put you back in business.  In the interim, you can try using the recirculate button to reduce the temperature of the air being drawn through the AC (assuming the interior is cooler than the outside).</p>
<p>Blake</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by burrjf</title>
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		<dc:creator>burrjf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Blake,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The E55 has been sitting relatively idle.  I have replaced the sensors and had the unit charged.  EC light is not on.  Air temp sensor in front, even after replacing shows error, though I can read outside temp on instrument cluster.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s the next step - vacuum leak, head unit, ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John F. Burr, Ph.D.&lt;br&gt;Continuous Term Lecturer&lt;br&gt;Krannert School of Management&lt;br&gt;Purdue University&lt;br&gt;615 Carrolton Blvd&lt;br&gt;W. Lafayette, IN 47906&lt;br&gt;765.404.4114</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Blake,</p>
<p>The E55 has been sitting relatively idle.  I have replaced the sensors and had the unit charged.  EC light is not on.  Air temp sensor in front, even after replacing shows error, though I can read outside temp on instrument cluster.</p>
<p>What&#39;s the next step &#8211; vacuum leak, head unit, ?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>John F. Burr, Ph.D.<br />Continuous Term Lecturer<br />Krannert School of Management<br />Purdue University<br />615 Carrolton Blvd<br />W. Lafayette, IN 47906<br />765.404.4114</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by jessejames4</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessejames4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Blake, I came to the same conclusion last night after adding a can of 134a only to have the compressor blow much colder air for approximately the same short time span of a minute or two,&lt;br&gt;thanks for your help, donation to the Blake Cameron Wildlife Preservation Fund to follow. :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jesse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Blake, I came to the same conclusion last night after adding a can of 134a only to have the compressor blow much colder air for approximately the same short time span of a minute or two,<br />thanks for your help, donation to the Blake Cameron Wildlife Preservation Fund to follow. :&gt;)</p>
<p>Jesse</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by blakecameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>blakecameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesse,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In short, your problem is the evaporator temperature sensor (#5).  Replace that and you&#039;ll be back in business.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look through my other replies if you are interested in a more comprehensive explanation of why this sensor causes this problem.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse,</p>
<p>In short, your problem is the evaporator temperature sensor (#5).  Replace that and you&#39;ll be back in business.  </p>
<p>Look through my other replies if you are interested in a more comprehensive explanation of why this sensor causes this problem.</p>
<p>Blake</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Blake, I have a 1998 E300 TD.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Symptoms are: A tiny bit cold for the first 3-4 minutes, then blows whatever air temp seems to be outside.&lt;br&gt;First about the faults. I had a bunch of faults that I was able to clear out to a E-FF status with zero showing. A Winter ago I had Firestone replace the Serpentine belt which is where I think the problem might have started. Also checked using my CodeKey ODB reader and no codes thrown. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here are my error codes, 1st reading is after 3 minutes, 2nd reading after 20 minutes driving to work. These are in Celsius on the left, Fahrenheit on the right in parens:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sensor 1- 37, 36  (98.6, 96.8)&lt;br&gt;sensor 2- 32, 30  (89.6, 86)&lt;br&gt;sensor 3- 40, 37  (104, 98.6)&lt;br&gt;sensor 4- 40, 37  (104, 98.6)&lt;br&gt;sensor 5- 77, 77  (170.6,170,6)&lt;br&gt;sensor 6- 37, 95  (98.6, 203)&lt;br&gt;sensor 7- 08, 08  (bar)&lt;br&gt;sensor 8- 33, 42  (91.4, 107)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since sensor 7 reads only 8 bar, so I&#039;m thinking that with no fault codes I might just need a recharge and the problem could be a leak somewhere. A confirmation would help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone have a link to the 210 parts numbers for all the sensors?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jesse&lt;br&gt;Fairfield, County, Connecticut</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Blake, I have a 1998 E300 TD.</p>
<p>Symptoms are: A tiny bit cold for the first 3-4 minutes, then blows whatever air temp seems to be outside.<br />First about the faults. I had a bunch of faults that I was able to clear out to a E-FF status with zero showing. A Winter ago I had Firestone replace the Serpentine belt which is where I think the problem might have started. Also checked using my CodeKey ODB reader and no codes thrown. </p>
<p>Here are my error codes, 1st reading is after 3 minutes, 2nd reading after 20 minutes driving to work. These are in Celsius on the left, Fahrenheit on the right in parens:</p>
<p>sensor 1- 37, 36  (98.6, 96.8)<br />sensor 2- 32, 30  (89.6, 86)<br />sensor 3- 40, 37  (104, 98.6)<br />sensor 4- 40, 37  (104, 98.6)<br />sensor 5- 77, 77  (170.6,170,6)<br />sensor 6- 37, 95  (98.6, 203)<br />sensor 7- 08, 08  (bar)<br />sensor 8- 33, 42  (91.4, 107)</p>
<p>Since sensor 7 reads only 8 bar, so I&#39;m thinking that with no fault codes I might just need a recharge and the problem could be a leak somewhere. A confirmation would help.</p>
<p>Does anyone have a link to the 210 parts numbers for all the sensors?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance,</p>
<p>Jesse<br />Fairfield, County, Connecticut</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by grandnational</title>
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		<dc:creator>grandnational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent in a question 2 months ago, if you have time could you please check it out and give me some advice.  Thanks for any help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent in a question 2 months ago, if you have time could you please check it out and give me some advice.  Thanks for any help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air Conditioning Diagnosis by blakecameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>blakecameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like your system is empty and needs to be recharged.  The&lt;br&gt;refrigerant pressure sensor is reporting zero pressure. Sometimes this&lt;br&gt;is caused by a defective sensor, but that happens rarely.  Look&lt;br&gt;through my previous responses for instructions on how to bypass the&lt;br&gt;pressure sensor and how to reset the codes if you want to give that a&lt;br&gt;try before recharging.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If your system is empty, the most common source of leak is the receiver-dryer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray,</p>
<p>Looks like your system is empty and needs to be recharged.  The<br />refrigerant pressure sensor is reporting zero pressure. Sometimes this<br />is caused by a defective sensor, but that happens rarely.  Look<br />through my previous responses for instructions on how to bypass the<br />pressure sensor and how to reset the codes if you want to give that a<br />try before recharging.</p>
<p>If your system is empty, the most common source of leak is the receiver-dryer.</p>
<p>Blake</p>
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